1971 Cont.
Prehistoric Astronomers, By Leslie
Young
Ancient roc carvings recently discovered in
A brief note on the article ‘The Ancient Map Makers, by L.M. Young
Summarized by D. Clarke
A quote appeared in regards to a researcher who reviewed the Piri
Reis’ map whose name was A. E. Nordenskiold.
"Nordenskiold contended that the unit of measurement was Catalan
which he believed had been based on units used by the Carthagineans and that
their portulans had been derived from geographical tradition greatly superior
to Ptolomy who it be remembered is regarded as the greatest of the geographers
of the ancient world. His mathematical ability is demonstrated by his work,
the Geographia who furthermore had access to all the cartographic knowledge
then available in the Alexandrine Library. Yet as emphasized by the author of
the present work, he failed to produce a more sophisticated map of the
Mediterranean than the rough seafarers of medieval
"the evidence cited in regards to Erathosthenes the Greek
Geographer (BC 276-BC 196) who succeeded in estimating the circumference of the
earth to within a small margin of error, that it extended well beyond the Greek
epoch of seafaring."
The method Erathostenes used was the measuring of the sun and mid-noon
in to different locations one Kyrene, and the other Alexandria. But this
webmaster must note to the reader that at around 1,700 BC a Nubian King was
noted to have found with his geographers as measured in the same method in
Meroe to some location west or east of this with the other shadows casting onto
wells. This means that by at least 1,010 BC the curvature of the world was
known which falls at the height of the Phoenician Empire stationed near
Carthage ports in the west and in the east Mediterranean. The Colossus of
Rhodes of Apollo would later affirm this notion as a Sun God overseeing his
circular ports. If we suppose the Piri Reis’ Maps are copies of something
Carthage copied and then in turn from Phoenician records and then from some
Egyptian source or other records. We may be looking at a system older then
2,000 BC. With this seems to parallel Stonehenge works and other
astronomical circles in order to define the curvature of the earth. The
circles in this case may not be overlooked as devices of establishing
latitudinal or longitudinal considerations. In which case these megaliths span
back to 6,000 BC in practice and that brings up the notion why is it Catalan
Meters or units instead of an Egyptian one? This webmaster put has forward,
and as far as I know I have heard of no one directly speculate along these
lines in connection of astronomy with the geographical use of such monuments
for that indirect purpose of map making. Or at least in regards to this, as to
how Piri Reis map came to be. It will be noted in the 1972 Journal ‘The
Atlantis of Plato’, by N. Zhirov’s ‘Atlantis’ Progress Publishers, Moscow 1971
which was a review of the English version. Showed by his theory that it might
have been acquired during the period of the Akkadian and King Sargon when
Verrils mentions that he had crossed the ocean and explored the Americas. This
period was 2,350 to 2100 BC which is 400 years before the Nubian King of Meroe.
This would explain some of the Toltec connections to the Akkadian religion, and
astronomy that had overlade a older culture in Mexico, and Central America with
winged serpents, or winged Sphinx Men, and or Feather Crowned men. This does
not take away from the Phoenician use of symbols, or even the earlier Egyptian
ones. It may also explain the re-emphasis of stepped pyramids.
1971 ends
An example letter from Ignatius Donnelly to W. E, Gladstone (statesman
and classical writer)
Hastings Minnesota, U.S.A. Feb. 18, 1882
Dear Mr. Gladstone,
I have sent you a copy of my new book "Atlantis" which I beg
you will accept with my compliments and respect. With your multifarious duties
I can hardly hope that you will find time to read it, although part of it, the
chapter on Greek mythology and its relations to Atlantis, especially touches a
subject upon which you have written much. I should at least be glad to know
that the book has reached you.
Ignatius Donnelly.
Gladstone responded on March 11th which was faster response
then in 1972 postal service from England to America. Donnelly wrote back on the
25th. These two letters I do not know what transpired. Today,
however, with the Internet letters they do move quicker.
A World Map of the 6th Century BC, By E. Sykes 1972
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