1969
cont.
Underwater Structures Found off North
Bimini and Andros Islands, By Egerton Sykes
"Twelve years ago a Mr. Horace
Gouvieva of Midland Texas, reported discovering cut stone under water off one
of the islands of the Bahama Groups, either Andros or N. Bimini. I have
photograph of the discovery, which was written up at the time in both Atlantis
and
The suggestion made in 1965 by
Commander V. Ralph Sobieralski, that there had been a causeway connecting the
Bahamas Bank with Palm Beach, would fit in with either of these assumptions. On
the European and African side the inland sea of North Africa dried up, the
Strait of Gibralter was opened, the causeway connecting Italy with Tunisia via
Malta was broken. This caused large scale migrations in North Africa to Egypt
on the one hand and to Benin and the Ife Country of Nigeria on the other.
Somebody put up the idea that the rectangular structure found near Pine Key,
Andros, was a turtle pen. He seems to have forgotten that turtles can swim and
this statement, if correct, proves that the land was above water. In the
article in Muse News referred to above, Valentine states- "The only
possibility of recovering the ancient culture would be from the deeply flooded
and damaged caves and the people living there were the ancestors of the
Caloosa Indians." I agree with this assumption, and wonder if the
four-sided pyramidal mound at Estro on the West Coast, which he thinks to have
been a pyramid, is not evidence of the fact that when the Mayans and their
cousins landed they destroyed a culture as old as their own but slightly less
bloodthirsty and on a lower technological level. I consider that the loss of
arts and skills was simply due to there being crushed out of existence by the
new arrivals. It is interesting speculation whether the ancestors of the
Arawaks may not have been Meropidae, who lived on the two Atlantic islands
named Merops and Machimos, and were referred to in a now lost play Thespis,
-recorded by Diogenes Laertius and mentioned by Plutarch-in his Life of Solon-
Theopompus, Ammianus Marcellinus and Varro among others. These two islands,
which may have been the last remnants of the lost Atlantean Continent were
certainly in existence in BC 5,000, just late enough for memories of them to
have filtered down through Greek myth and history. This would explain their
having had a higher cultural standard in the past, which was gradually eroded
by hard living conditions."
Webmaster Note-You may notice on the
new Atlantean Research Journal Vol. 1, No. 1 I gave a map as the most upto date
of its kind about the speculation of Atlantis layout. I also noted the Machimos
and the Mazmet or Mazma culture as the same type of group of ancient maritime
culture and cousins of Azillians. This is the website to see that connection
based on obsidean seekers……http://atlantisite.com/atlantismap.htm
"This raises another problem: Were
the Arawaks having a form of Co-existence with the Maya, or did they only move
in after a great migration to Mexico. To my mind the latter seems the most
obvious solution. The great catastrophe may have been the sudden immersion of
Merops and Machimos, which flooded the Caribbean Sea, forced the Maya to move
to the mainland and left their islands free for the fleeing Arawaks."
Webmaster Note- This is an amazing
comment, not only does Egerton say the Maya move from Haiti and Cuba into
Mexico, and Yucatan, but that likewise the Arawak moved into the regions the
Maya left. This is being proven scientifically as more and more plausible in
recent finds. In light of the Cuba western underwater find, I will follow up by
what Sykes is saying by the fact that the Cuba monuments do look Mayan, yet the
art on Cuba of its eastern region is very likened to Haiti and Arawak works. It
would seem Egerton Sykes was the first ever to note from Greek myth into causal
circumstances of a flood in Caribbean, and the Maya expulsion from Machimos or
Cuba, and the subsequent Arawak invasion. He is historically 85% correct in his
assumptions. A modern example is what happened in 1935 in the Florida Keys when
a hurricane destroyed much of the keys and killed many people. Many people who
were going to move to the Keys stayed in Miami, while those of the island
culture, or Indians and speculators of less dubious character invaded the
island along with the WPA to bring confidence back into the Keys to live on???
If a hurricane did this imagine what the inundation of sea by sea-bridges
collapsing would do to the average pyramid builder?
"The photographs of structures
published in Valentine’s article, taken I gather by Count Pino Turolla, show
definitely that at one time there was at least a Stone Age civilization and
probably a bronze age one, living and working in the area. The article suggests
the possibility of a Phoenician Port, in which case my dates may have to be
changed from 5,000 to about 3,000 BC."
Webmaster Note- This again is amazing
that the time table I suggested to the Cuba group, Andrew Collins and others
that the Cuba structures will probably be found to be between 5,000 to 3,000
B.C. and probably not much earlier, yet for the Caribbean question in light of
this Cuba issue Sykes was dead on in his reasoning.
" If we accept the date of 1,000
BC for the beginning of the Mayan migration to the mainland, possibly the
Caloosas may have moved Northwards to avoid them, while the Arawaks began to
move into the now vacated islands. The Caribs may well fit in with the Arawak
concept. Events further North in Florida have been covered in another article
in this issue. It seems fairly sure that while the various Meso American
cultures may have moved from Mexico northwards, Florida was very little
affected by any of them. I rather think that Valentine should be able to answer
some of these important points in the near future and I wish him every success
in his efforts. One thing I do hope is that it will be possible to get his
paper on the x-Kukican site reprinted. I found it most valuable, and regret
that somebody borrowed it and failed to return it." E.S.
Webmaster Note- Actually the Caloosa
date back to at least 1,500 BC meaning they were in Florida before the 15th
Dynasty of Egypt in a period earlier then Aahmes the I Pharaoh who kicked out
the Hyksos in Egypt. The Caloosa are not Egyptian, but are Creole
Phoenicians!!!! If we see that they may in Florida go back another 500 years it
would put us at 2,000 BC which makes them a late Bronze Age Culture and may
have arrived a little after 3,000 BC or after the walls of Caribbean had
predominately collapsed. Most of this theory is mine alone and first proposed
as the most likely explanation as to why the Caloosa where white colored
Indians when the Spanish first arrived.
Ragnarok-The Time of the Disaster, E. Sykes a brief summary and a list of corresponding societies
on Atlantis info. In1969